4/7/2023 0 Comments Slow burn podcast slate![]() The story became a stark reminder that in a world where abortion is illegal, women can and would be held responsible for the first time in over 50 years just like Shirley was. I think Shirley’s story made our listeners start to imagine what life in America could be like without protecting the right to abortion, and I think Shirley herself is incredibly relatable. ![]() Shirley’s story is almost impossible to believe - that she would be charged with manslaughter for having an abortion, and that her punishment would end up being what it was (I won’t spoil that part). Susan: I actually think the strongest reaction came in response to the very first episode about Shirley Wheeler, which was released right when everything was ramping up with the SCOTUS term. Which was good for the show but alarming for the country - an interesting mix of emotions there.ĪP: Which episode did your listeners have the strongest reaction to this year, and why? So it felt like, all of a sudden, a lot more people were paying attention. It was really clear from how the justices approached their questioning.īut it was the leak that really made it feel not only possible but probable. As a close court watcher, I think anyone who listened to the oral arguments in Dobbs in December 2021 felt it coming. Susan: For me, the main thing that changed after the leak was that it finally felt like people were accepting the idea that a decision that would overturn Roe was really coming. It was a wild few days as we realized these musty, old documents and forgotten stories we had been collecting were suddenly very relevant to current events. We ended up scrambling over the next 24 hours to finalize the trailer, artwork, et cetera, so we could publicly announce the new season in the leak’s aftermath. However, once the news leaked, there was a flurry of late-night messages as we brainstormed how to respond. That foresight allowed us to do most of our reporting and tape gathering in advance. Wade host Susan MatthewsĪP: How did your release plans adapt or change when the draft Supreme Court decision leaked?ĭerek: Believe it or not, Susan had mapped out the season at least six months beforehand so we were already planning to release it during the June SCOTUS term. I also learned that in the late 1960s, there was a political philosophy that was actively organized around “life” - people opposed abortion just like they opposed the death penalty and the war in Vietnam, which gives a new dimension to the phrase “pro-life” for me. It was really instructive for me to talk with people who actually have the deeply held belief that abortion is morally wrong, and to try to understand why they think that. I had really started to think that abortion was such an opportunistic issue that is championed by Republicans looking for support from evangelicals and other groups who oppose abortion on religious grounds. ![]() I wouldn’t say that the work changed my personal position on abortion, but I do think that my research helped me understand their position in a deeper way. Susan: One of my goals going into this series was to try to more fully understand the pro-life perspective. Wade struck a chord with listeners.ĪP: What, if anything, have you changed your mind about in the course of reporting this story? ![]() Planned months before the case was overturned, Slow Burn: Roe v. ![]()
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